Comments on: S.T. Kingston Diamond FD84 http://www.fleetwood-trawlers.info/index.php/2009/01/st-kingston-diamond-fd84/ Fleetwood Steam and Sailing Trawlers Fri, 16 Jul 2010 15:56:29 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0 By: philmasterson http://www.fleetwood-trawlers.info/index.php/2009/01/st-kingston-diamond-fd84/comment-page-1/#comment-96 philmasterson Sat, 16 Jan 2010 22:38:20 +0000 http://www.fleetwood-trawlers.info/?p=3729#comment-96 Hi Jim, Many thanks for Your help, do You by any chance know where I could get original drawings for 'Lady Madeleine' or even simillar vessels, There used to be a brilliant magazine full of modelling plans but I leant it to someone never to be seen again? It's surprisingly so that there is very little easy to find information even on this keyboard highway? Thanks, Phil. Hi Jim,
Many thanks for Your help, do You by any chance know where I could get original drawings for ‘Lady Madeleine’ or even simillar vessels, There used to be a brilliant magazine full of modelling plans but I leant it to someone never to be seen again? It’s surprisingly so that there is very little easy to find information even on this keyboard highway?
Thanks,
Phil.

]]> By: Jim Porter http://www.fleetwood-trawlers.info/index.php/2009/01/st-kingston-diamond-fd84/comment-page-1/#comment-95 Jim Porter Fri, 15 Jan 2010 08:30:43 +0000 http://www.fleetwood-trawlers.info/?p=3729#comment-95 Phil There were two Lady Madeleine's with different dimensions. One became Red Lancer and the other Kingston Diamond. I agree with your comments about the boats, they were a lot nicer looking than those that we have today. There are still a few Fleetwood boats knocking around the world and it would be nice to be able to restore one as a museum ship. Phil

There were two Lady Madeleine’s with different dimensions. One became Red Lancer and the other Kingston Diamond. I agree with your comments about the boats, they were a lot nicer looking than those that we have today. There are still a few Fleetwood boats knocking around the world and it would be nice to be able to restore one as a museum ship.

]]> By: philmasterson http://www.fleetwood-trawlers.info/index.php/2009/01/st-kingston-diamond-fd84/comment-page-1/#comment-94 philmasterson Thu, 14 Jan 2010 21:41:25 +0000 http://www.fleetwood-trawlers.info/?p=3729#comment-94 Many Thanks Alan, I really appreciate Your effort, I'm a little confused over the dimensions as She's lost 17' in length, 2' off Her beam and 3'4'' off Her draft? The draft I could understand but the others? It just goes to show how things are lost in 'history' if not properly documented Question now is which ones are correct? although the dimensions I have are both the same in the book and as listed with the admiralty, Yet not even the Admiralty have a picture of 'Lady Madeleine' or 'Graeme Ogden'? I hate seeing these old boats fade away, the culture the history everything, I have tried to proffesionally build boats but struggle to find a way that I could build anything these days without cutting corners, (so I have given up and hope now to join the Royal Navy) I learnt with wooden boats then moved into plastic but any monkey can mould a grp boat it's the mould shape that sells the product not the skills involved to build the boat. Times have changed, I wished more could be done to save old boats, but it all comes down to money and unless we have passion for things they just fade away. Fishing Boats of Yesterday were gracefull and elegant, today they are too angliar and look like a distorted photo of a boat compressed half it's length, no doubt this is done to beat the legislation but it aint pretty! We need more Charity vessels, the costs when spread would be minimal but the beauty and good feeling would me massive. Keep up the good work, Phil. Many Thanks Alan,
I really appreciate Your effort, I’m a little confused over the dimensions as She’s lost 17′ in length, 2′ off Her beam and 3’4” off Her draft? The draft I could understand but the others? It just goes to show how things are lost in ‘history’ if not properly documented
Question now is which ones are correct? although the dimensions I have are both the same in the book and as listed with the admiralty, Yet not even the Admiralty have a picture of ‘Lady Madeleine’ or ‘Graeme Ogden’?
I hate seeing these old boats fade away, the culture the history everything, I have tried to proffesionally build boats but struggle to find a way that I could build anything these days without cutting corners, (so I have given up and hope now to join the Royal Navy)
I learnt with wooden boats then moved into plastic but any monkey can mould a grp boat it’s the mould shape that sells the product not the skills involved to build the boat.
Times have changed, I wished more could be done to save old boats, but it all comes down to money and unless we have passion for things they just fade away.
Fishing Boats of Yesterday were gracefull and elegant, today they are too angliar and look like a distorted photo of a boat compressed half it’s length, no doubt this is done to beat the legislation but it aint pretty!
We need more Charity vessels, the costs when spread would be minimal but the beauty and good feeling would me massive.
Keep up the good work,
Phil.

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